I knew two years ago. One was a married brother who ended up divorcing his wife because it turned out he was homosexual! He got disfellowshipped. The other was a woman who had five children, she stayed one for some years then changed her mind. Her husband was an elder and none of their children stayed in 'the truth'.
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'Anointeds' Do you know any and if so what are they like ?
by Introvert 2 inwould like to hear about any experiences anyone has had with the so called ' anointed ' .
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Secret disfellowshipping
by disillusioned 2 ini always thought it was ridiculous that when a person was disfellowshipped they didn't tell us why.
everybody would speculate, but we wouldn't know the real reason.
also i thought they were only supposed to be disfellowshipped if they weren't repentant and wouldn't stop doing the wrong thing.
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An old and very respected elder in my mum's congregation got disfellowshipped two years ago. Nobody had a clue as to why and everyone was really shocked, including me who hadn't been for years. I felt really sorry for this man. I asked my mum if she knew why and the only thing she could come up with was "he organized a lot of trips for the brothers and sisters so was taking too much time away from theocratic activities". I was shocked that she believed that was the reason why he was disfellowshipped. Although she was only guessing. He has now been reinstated. My dad who is no longer a witness used to call it a 'secret society' because of this.
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Secret disfellowshipping
by disillusioned 2 ini always thought it was ridiculous that when a person was disfellowshipped they didn't tell us why.
everybody would speculate, but we wouldn't know the real reason.
also i thought they were only supposed to be disfellowshipped if they weren't repentant and wouldn't stop doing the wrong thing.
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I always thought it was ridiculous that when a person was disfellowshipped they didn't tell us why. Everybody would speculate, but we wouldn't know the real reason. Also I thought they were only supposed to be disfellowshipped if they weren't repentant and wouldn't stop doing the wrong thing. So you have to assume that everyone disfellowshipped was not sorry for what they had done and were still doing it!
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Where Does Jehovah Live?
by Wild_Thing inwhen my niece was very little (over 20 years ago), barely walking or talking, my mother decided to teach her "where jehovah lives".
she would coach her and say, "where does jehovah live?
" in a sing-song voice.
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Comments at the WT this morning
by OneFingerSalute inso as i am "listening" to the wt study going on this question was asked.
"how do you feel about refined understanding?".
some of the comments were:.
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- MORONS plain and simple!
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Rutherford's Satanic Lie
by Icarus insatan: "you certainly will not die!".
rutherford: "millions now living will never die!
"when satan told his lie, adam and eve both died despite his assurances.
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While browsing in a charity shop I found the book The Harp of God written by Russell in 1921. On the front of the book are those very words. It was a fascinating read. Yes definitely a lie! -
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Specific Comments By R&F About May Broadcast
by freemindfade ini know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!
but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.
i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).
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I am afraid to ask my family, we always end up having rows when I ask any questions. I wouldn't be surprised if my 85 year old mum upped her contributions! -
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Why doe New light tick me off???? Next 2 weeks WT Studies
by zophar inif you have been a jw for 20+ years you may remember that the wt went into great detail on different illustrations that jesus used and the "type/anti-type" ridiculous explanations.
remember the revelation book and how those obscure jw conventions of the past pictured big things in heaven and the opening of seals?
anyway, the wt lessons for the next two weeks do two big things for me.
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Stuckinarut2 I wish I had been there to hear your answer. The reaction from your congregation proves there is no hope for them. I hoped that my husband who went this morning (who has a degree) would have finally questioned something, but he has come back and not said a word. Or maybe he is in denial! -
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Why doe New light tick me off???? Next 2 weeks WT Studies
by zophar inif you have been a jw for 20+ years you may remember that the wt went into great detail on different illustrations that jesus used and the "type/anti-type" ridiculous explanations.
remember the revelation book and how those obscure jw conventions of the past pictured big things in heaven and the opening of seals?
anyway, the wt lessons for the next two weeks do two big things for me.
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They boast about taking words from the bible.
in English at the annual meeting on October 5, 2013. * Many Scriptures now use fewer words, yet their meaning is intact or even clearer. For example, Job 10:1 went from 27 words to 19; Proverbs 8:6 went from 20 words to 13. Both verses are clearer in the new edition. In fact, one faithful anointed brother with a record of decades of loyal service commented: “I just read the book of Job in the new edition, and I feel as if I understand it for the first time!” Many have made similar comments.
Rev 22:19 and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life, and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll.
And yet they blatantly do it!
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The shift: from follower to wanting to leave
by paradisebeauty inthis week has been the week when my whole way of thinking shifted.
i still cannot believe how this can happen so fast.
over a period of seven days i went from not even imagining that i could ever not be a witness to wanting to get out of this organisation.. .
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It was 1975 that woke me up. Not immediately, I stayed a long time after that. Most of my family are in. I was at school leading up to '75 and remember it all like it was yesterday. It was all anyone talked about. Stay alive till '75, its just around the corner, don't go to college cos the new system will be here before you know it! Some of my friends congregations had charts on the wall counting down the months.
My mother and close friend used to say my little sister and her children who were at primary school would never finish before it came. I wouldn't go away on holiday with my friends because I didn't want to be away from my family when it came.
Time went by, I got married and had 5 children in 10 years, not all planned! It was really hard and I guess we didn't get to many meetings or out on ministry at that time so got 'spiritually weak' When we did go I started questioning things but kept them to myself. It was when years after '75 having conversations with different ones and they would deny that the society had ever said it and I would get frustrated and have no way of proving to them. I didn't have any old literature. I had discussions with my mum expecting her to agree with me but she said "the society never actually said it, we did, we got it wrong! I couldn't believe what I was hearing. We had many arguments and I got nowhere. By this point I went on the internet typed in 1975 Jehovah's witnesses and of course I found it. Luckily (though I didn't think so at the time) some months prior to this my husband got a load (about 20) watchtower and awake bound volumes. We had the 1968 watchtower that asked Why are you looking forward to 1975! I took it to my mum, opened it and her mouth literally fell open. She read the whole article in silence then proceeded to make excuses. We argued, she got upset, I felt awful that I had upset her. I realized she was too old to change so we try not to speak about it anymore.
I couldn't stop searching then. I literally found out more about the society than I had when I was in. It is very hard not to talk to those I love about everything I've found out but I've tried and they won't listen. I have my children, none of them believe (because we were so bad at taking them when they were young). We are close, I think I would go mad if it wasn't for them. My husband has recently been persuaded to go back, he never stopped believing. Reading other's comments and their stories is very helpful, you know your not alone going through this.